tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221608027689754679.post3204650809270672354..comments2024-03-22T05:36:02.491-07:00Comments on Sunday Comics Debt: Here, Have a BalloonDeBThttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05711985474864185922noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221608027689754679.post-11315037438442376152010-07-18T09:21:54.938-07:002010-07-18T09:21:54.938-07:00Zomg, that Twilight panel. Aghast, but more at the...Zomg, that Twilight panel. Aghast, but more at the font used than the transparency, though the placement is problematic. (On a side note, translucent bubbles are surely a lot more annoying to edit/letter/redraw than white bubbles are.)<br /><br />Those examples of Joe Sacco's work make me feel a little woozy too! XDjennhttp://awaffle.isgreat.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221608027689754679.post-43335792316405842112010-07-10T11:12:44.609-07:002010-07-10T11:12:44.609-07:00You're certainly one of the most verbose respo...You're certainly one of the most verbose responders I've seen in awhile. So I was disappointed when your livejournal address led nowhere. I would've liked to see more of your writings.<br /><br />Regarding Joe Sacco, it's not just that the text boxes are tilted, I also have to contend with the speech balloons which are for some strange reason, perfectly horizontal. Just as I'm begining to feel some stability within a page, it lurches me another way, which fits my seasick metaphor perfectly.<br /><br />One major difference I've noticed between Manga and American comics is that when recalling a previous event, the former will use a panel of a relevant scene in the background or a stand-alone panel. (This happens a lot in Naruto) Whereas, American S-hero comics will have "see issue 396, page 12, panel six!"<br /><br />I may exagerate, but it was this continual refference to past issues that made the Soap Opera-ish S-hero comics gain popularity. Since they continually talked about past events, ravenous fans had to hunt down these elusive issues to find out what these people were talking about. If Romance comics had gone down this road, and not contented themselves with being stand-alone stories, the current comics landscape could be very different from today.DanielBThttp://sundaycomicsdebt.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1221608027689754679.post-13755245459501858642010-07-07T08:42:21.387-07:002010-07-07T08:42:21.387-07:00Yeah, I see what you mean about that Joe Sacco pan...Yeah, I see what you mean about that Joe Sacco panel. It doesn't bother me as much as it bothers you, since I've read stuff by him before without even noticing this tendency. But in that page particularly it is rather distracting the way the text boxes are tilted in the air as if they're actually hovering and fluttering slightly in the breeze at semi-cross purposes to the movement of the car. This effect seems to be further enhanced by the fact that the words aren't centered in the boxes, and in fact have noticeably ragged margins that somehow make you much more conscious of the text boxes as quasi-physical objects intruding on the picture. <br /><br />That shoujo thing with the reflective "voiceovers" competing with the dialogue in a simultaneous or remembered scene bothers me, too. You even picked a page from "Skip*Beat," the manga that immediately sprang to mind as an example of this. Personally, I think this technique works a lot better when the voiceover at least finishes a complete thought or sentence in each panel, instead of forcing you to try to mentally carry the thread of both the half-finished voiceover statement and the ongoing dialogue across two or more panels. This makes it pretty much impossible to follow either thought coherently to the end without, as you said, temporarily ignoring one in order to read the other all the way to its conclusion first, and then going back to read the other. <br /><br />It's somewhat more feasible to juggle the two narrative/conversational threads simultaneously if the non-voiceover action being pictured is just a recapitulation of a scene that's already been shown earlier in the manga. But sometimes even that doesn't help much, especially if the remembered scene originally occurred multiple pages or chapters earlier, or is obviously supposed to take on significantly deeper new meaning once it's juxtaposed with the conclusions drawn in the voiceover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com